faranim ([info]faranim) wrote,
@ 2007-08-05 00:27:00
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Maybe I was wrong...
Well, ever since my post a few days ago I've been second guessing myself about what it is that I really want. I think I'm going through a phase in my life that most "normal" people go through in high school. I guess that makes me a bit of a late bloomer, but I want to get this thing figured out. I'm going to be revealing a lot of information about myself, much of which I am somewhat embarassed/ashamed about, however I feel that this would be a good way to get answers to the many questions I have running through my head right now.



So, let's go back to the very beginning. Somewhere in Middle / High school people go through puberty. Usually around this time, "normal" people begin to date, hook up, explore their sexuality, attempt sex, etc. However, I was never one of those people. I was a giant nerd, and not particularly attractive (braces, glasses, the whole deal). I had horrible social skills and not a whole lot of friends in school. The handful of friends I did have I was very close to, but most other people I talked to in school were more like acquaintances. I'm not sure if I ever had a high school "crush." There are plenty of guys and girls I can remember from high school who I thought were attractive, for various reasons (appearance, personality, or otherwise).

Then College happened. Most other freshman in college had already been drinking alcohol since high school, as well as having sex. I had never done either of those. In fact, I had never even kissed anyone in high school (nor had any burning desire to kiss anybody). I went through college mostly the same way. I didn't have a whole lot of friends, and I was busy with my classes and FFXI that I didn't have much of a social life. I didn't have any real desire to see other people either, I was perfectly content to be non-social and play video games all day in my dorm room. Looking back now, this was most likely due to low testosterone levels and lack of a sex drive.

Now, a little over a year out of college, things are different. I got a job, am making decent money, live in a house with a cool roommate, have a couple of close friends, and am socially active. I joined a gym and am improving my physical appearance. The only missing piece of the puzzle is physical intimacy which I have never experienced before in my entire life. Now I'm finally trying to find it, but I'm confused about where to start, what I'm really looking for, and what to expect. Maybe I'm just expecting too much. Maybe I'm just completely inexperienced. But I'm definitely confused.

I cannot deny that I find other men physically attractive. I would have absolutely no problem waking up in the morning with hot guy in bed with me. Then again, I wouldn't have a problem waking up with a hot girl in bed with me either. But I think the guy would turn me on more. Does that make me gay / bi? I really have no clue.



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(Anonymous)
2007-08-05 07:12 am UTC (link)
www.dlist.com

Not Work Safe

Social network for gay/bi guys, like myspace but with porn if you want(this part is really weird)

For the rest, at least you realize what you're missing in your life and are taking steps to close those gaps. Just be you XD

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-05 07:46 am UTC (link)
except for the girls part, i'm 100% exactly the same, although i still don't think i really have any real need or desire for sexual activity....happy with a guy just to spoon me or something heh.

finding myself wanting to be with some of my closer friends (who are straight), because i feel like the connection is already there, i'm not sure i could really go through the dating scene. i guess the best option for me would be to find a bunch of gay friends, but there's a part of me that's afraid of becomming the stereotypical gay guy, which isn't something i'm attracted to or want to be.

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[info]faranim
2007-08-05 02:06 pm UTC (link)
Bingo! Fems are weird, but I'm reasonably sure that just meeting other gay people won't suddenly give me a limp wrist or change the way I talk. I actually discovered that there are LOTS of gay/bi guys who look and act like any other normal guy you'd see in public. There is also appearantly lots of bi, married guys who frequently make out with other men (just look on craigslist for m4m ads)

The other issue is that I'm not really sure if sex is what I want. To be honest, I think sex is really gross. I think naked people are gross. Guys look hotter in athletic shorts and a tight T-shirt/Tank top than when they are naked. A woman in a swimsuit is way hotter than a naked woman. But maybe I only say that about women because society has brainwashed me into pretending to be straight. Yes, I can recognize when a woman is hot (just like I'm sure straight guys can recognize when another guy is hot), but I don't think I've ever been aroused by a woman. This is the primary reason why I've questioned my own sexuality. There's just a rediculous amount of social and religious pressure to be straight, it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy or something.

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[info]beastmasterlui
2007-08-05 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Do what makes you happy, regardless of anything else.

Guys with clothing tend to be hotter than without ;)

When you are pursuing activities that you enjoy doing, and express opinions that you honestly believe, this will naturally bring people towards you and push people away from you. The people who are drawn towards you are worth your time, and I bet the physical intimacy will come with that from someone. You can't reach out and ask for it or expect it. Yeah it's nice, but I have found myself in intimate situations more when I don't push for it, or expect it even.

Dare I say, the more you give, the more you receive?

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-06 12:59 pm UTC (link)
yea i think i'm the same about nudity in general(disregarding porn~), the penis and vagina really stands out and in not a good way (imo). women aren't so bad from a distance, but i think they're alot worse when you get upclose. i stare at a picture of one and i think how can someone seriously want to stick their face in that, it looks like it might eat them. but who am i to talk, already being proof of different strokes for different folks

speedo's, hipster's etc, all hotter to me, it's sexier to see someone actually strip, instead of chuck all the clothes off within 5 seconds. i guess if you're a dog in heat or something then seeing someone in their underwear isn't enough heh.

as for sex being gross i'm not sure; in a way i can't see myself doing it but i'm not sure if it's because i think wow that's disgusting, perhaps more being afraid? feeling vulnerable, not knowing what i'm doing, being naked etc. if i ever leave the state of mind i'm in now, i don't think i'd go remotely near casual relationships, sexual or otherwise.

i live in australia so i only heard about craigslist recently, from a friend (ironically enough the one i had a crush on, and when i think of being with someone...the person's form is him, heh i'm so screwed) who was a little bit surprised at how casual/pornograhpic the m4m section is compared to the hetero parts. in a way it makes me sad, if i ever wanted to find someone via online..having to wade through all that.

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[info]simozene
2007-08-05 12:54 pm UTC (link)
The only way you're going to truly find out what you want is to experiment. If you go out with both men and women and you will probably come to understand more about yourself.

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[info]mtg2k
2007-08-06 12:53 am UTC (link)
I normally dont reveal much about myself either... I, much like yourself didn't have much of a high school/college drama life (what i refer to the whole sex drugs and alcohol scene) I was happy growing up playing my Nintendo, Super Nintendo, etc etc through the ages and to this day still don't have many friends... and the friends i do have are quite the motley bunch and I would like to share some wisdom with you that they have shared unto me.

I.) Everyone is different, don't be afraid of experimenting because you will never find what you want if you don't.

II.) (from a good gay friend) Another man knows what men like so he would be able to please you better than a woman given the chance.

III.) Don't be disappointed if the first relationship you enter into doesn't give you everything you ever wanted or if it ends abruptly. (Hell it took me until i was 25 to find a woman i was truly happy with)

IV.) Don't give a shit what other people think, irregardless what your sexual preference is.

V.) If you want to know more about a peticular sexuality, social clubs are the best place to start.

In closing, all i have to say really is don't sweat it, go out, have fun, meet people. and you will find what makes you happy.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-06 04:36 am UTC (link)
Honestly, before you assert yourself as being gay or bi, I think you need to actually be physically intimate with someone.

There is a huge difference between being intimate and being attracted. Personally, I find females to be extremelly aesthetically pleasing. It crossed my mind multiple times that I might be a lesbian. However, through experience I learned that being with a woman sexually wasn't as pleasing to me as being with men.

It's possible that you could be bi or gay, or even straight at this point. I just think you need to get out there and date!

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[info]onionkiri
2007-08-07 10:45 pm UTC (link)
You don't know me, but I added you on LJ quite a while back for your FFXI posts and never took you off -- so here's my take, for what it's worth. In college I found myself in a somewhat similar situation (I won't elaborate, since I don't feel terribly comfortable doing so on a public entry), especially with regards to physical intimacy/relationships in general. It was a completely different stage of my life in that respect since I hadn't dated at all before then, and wasn't really sure about how to go about it. And after having experienced that, I completely agree with every point Lui made in his comment -- the best way to find yourself in intimate situations is actually, to not seek them out, instead do what makes you happy, and things will take care of themselves. From your post, you're quite a bit more sociable and all around attractive than you used to be, so just put yourself out there and you won't have a problem with attracting people.

I can't say much about sexuality, since I'm fairly sure I'm straight and have never experimented -- in your situation it wouldn't hurt to experiment before you can be sure. However... if you've never been aroused by a woman, IMO it's a pretty safe bet to say you're gay. I mean, if women don't turn you on and men do, I'd think that's pretty conclusive.

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[info]switchstix
2007-08-08 05:45 pm UTC (link)
All the advice people are putting out right now are correct. The best way to know what you truly want is to get out there and find out if you like it. I would recommend trying either a social club or just get like 2 friends and the three of you should go to a bar. Just go for fun and if your shy like me, just being in that scene will teach you how to overcome shyness (or maybe thats just the alcohol) but thats how I met my guy now. Been seeing him for a while now and we both connect mentally and physically.

And if it's any help, I still think girls are pretty, I watch Americas Next Top Model just because of those girls. But I think they are just that, pretty to look at. The thought of them in bed with me or looking at their vag (eww) would completely gross me out beyond all hell.

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[info]gwynplainesiren
2007-08-09 03:50 am UTC (link)
Didn't really expect this, just went to look through your icon package again. Now I feel compelled to type up a comment so brace for introspective blathering.

It's common to be confused when you realize you might be gay. A lot of people I've known (myself included) begin to think that they may be bisexual. Only later after they're comfortable with making a decision do they seem willing to say they have a preference one way or the other. It's just something you will need to decide and think through for yourself over time.

I agree that it's harder to actually tell someone you're gay than it is to deal with their reaction. My friends and family took it well, for the most part, as I assumed they would. Having to actually do it was still a painful, gut wrenching experience.

What made it so difficult for me was having to say that I was gay felt like a damning decision from which there is no turning back. The idea of being gay carries with it a huge package-deal of forced stereotypes. It seemed like saying the word "gay" would turn me into something else that I'm not. Suddenly it's as though you're not just another person. In the eyes of society you're now lumped together with the likes of Richard Simons, and every other limp-wrist-ed, lisping, queeny Mcfaggots you'll ever run into. A frightening thought indeed. Simply keep in mind you're not a carbon copy spit out of some unholy Queer as Folk factory somewhere. Assert yourself as the person you are and always have been and the hell with everything else.

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[info]sofo88
2007-12-18 02:34 pm UTC (link)
Hi! Not sure if you'll get to read this or not (for the fact that this is an older post). But I'm pretty well in your situation. I am gay (pretty open about it now) but I haven't really realised that it was permanent (I thought I was just curious or w/e), and that's why I told my parents and close friends. Anyway, onto the subject, I've never had had any need of close-contact with others, and that's nothing you should feel negative about it (it's also normal to feel ashamed or embarrassed of nudity/sex, specially if you've gone to a catholic school like me, where these things are looked like a sin).
I don't think there's any problem with finding girls attractive, all of my close friends are guys (and heteros) and I never had a problem saying they're pretty or "hot" even though, like Switchstix said, I could never get into do sex with them. I like to think that this is similar what girls do, they in fact opinate about their girl-friends, and not because of that means that they like them enough to have sex.

I'm not sure if I've explained myself right, but if not, others have.

Like some other people have said, whatever you do, have fun, and try not to do anything that you might regret^^;

-Sean

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